Sir Van Talvin
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Post by Sir Van Talvin on Feb 2, 2006 13:06:46 GMT -5
...in the fight for freedom of the press. It's already starting in Europe and might find its way across the Atlantic. This is both ridiculous and scary. Click here to read all about it.
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Fox
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Post by Fox on Feb 3, 2006 10:04:25 GMT -5
This is the problem with Islam, the 'moderate' muslims go along with the kooks. The kooks rule the henhouse, suicide bombers are mainstream islam as far as I'm concerned, until the moderates stop with the silence, stop with the apologies and start condemning the actions of kooks, I will not be convinced otherwise.
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Shark Black
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Post by Shark Black on Feb 3, 2006 16:26:00 GMT -5
They burn the Danish flag because someone in Denmark made some offensive cartoons?... Someone needs to send these children to their room...
GROW UP ISLAM!!!
#frustrated#
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SethFWF
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Post by SethFWF on Feb 3, 2006 17:58:52 GMT -5
Exactly, 'ooh...I'm offended, how dare you make fun of Mohammed'(however it's spelled)... How many cartoons and comics, not to mention TV spoofs have been done over the years making fun of Jesus and every other Christian/Catholic or otherwise icon. I'm sure some people do get offended by it, but from across the world they're threatening kidnappings, murder and mayhem? Oye Vay!
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kerrick
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Post by kerrick on Feb 3, 2006 18:34:44 GMT -5
If a cartoon in a newspaper did this, I'm surprised "Team America: World Police" didn't stir up anything more. "Dirka dirka! Muhammad Jihad!" I especially liked how much fun they made of Michael Moore. Hilarious!
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Shark Black
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Post by Shark Black on Feb 5, 2006 1:40:12 GMT -5
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Sir Van Talvin
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Post by Sir Van Talvin on Feb 5, 2006 13:55:05 GMT -5
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SethFWF
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Post by SethFWF on Feb 5, 2006 14:13:31 GMT -5
"The drawings have touched a raw nerve in part because Islamic law is interpreted to forbid any depictions of the Prophet Muhammad for fear they could lead to idolatry.
Denmark’s Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has said he personally disapproves of the caricatures and any attacks on religion — but insisted he cannot apologize on behalf of his country’s independent press."
So someone needs to explain how Islamic law has jurisdiction over Europe or America. If they don't want to depict Muhammad in a nice or not nice way, then they don't have to...thereby sparing themselves from the temptation of idolatry. How and why do they feel they can impose that law on groups of people who don't believe in it??? I mean WTF... #shameonyou# #hmm#
And props to PM Anders, that's what freedom of the press is all about...you don't like it, don't read it, look at it...or support it financially. This comdenming the whole world stuff is BS, but not likely to change unfortunately.
Seth
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Sir Van Talvin
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Post by Sir Van Talvin on Feb 5, 2006 14:23:14 GMT -5
I'm glad that many Europeans seem to be finding their collective backbone. Ususally they disappoint me when it comes to Arab pressure (case in point: Israel).
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Shark Black
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Post by Shark Black on Feb 6, 2006 11:09:09 GMT -5
"ARAB CARTOON CLASHES TURN VIOLENT"
How ridiculous is this headline - LMAO!
If it wasn't so seriously sad it would be good humor.
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cyclopssss
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Post by cyclopssss on Feb 7, 2006 4:54:27 GMT -5
Yeah, as a European, I'm totally sickened by the constant indignancy of Muslim extremists. I mean, for christ's sake, we've been making fun of Jesus for ages....
Seriously, the western press should just boycott the footage of these rampages. Because that's all it is: a game who is the 'more true Muslim'
Freedom? 'They're already in your mail, email, phone and tv, next they'll be knocking at your door'
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BenMech
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Post by BenMech on Feb 7, 2006 11:35:51 GMT -5
Why won't these young Muslims do something useful, like burning down Christian churches or whatever??
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kerrick
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Post by kerrick on Feb 7, 2006 13:05:05 GMT -5
What? #ohgoon# Yeah, maybe then they could start some black metal bands! Muslim black metal. Now that would be something to see... -Kerrick
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Sir Van Talvin
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Post by Sir Van Talvin on Feb 7, 2006 14:12:46 GMT -5
Hey, Kerrick, didn't anyone ever tell you not to fall for Ben's baiting tactics? Oh, and Ben, if you're interested in what some Muslims might consider "doing something useful" then you ought to check out the news report from this hyperlink.
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SethFWF
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Post by SethFWF on Feb 7, 2006 19:48:57 GMT -5
"In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack called the proposed contest “outrageous.”
“Any attempt to mock or to in any way denigrate the horror that was the Holocaust is simply outrageous,” McCormack said."
Wrong thing to say, true as it is. But this is the exact response they want, it's OK for one type of freedom of expression or press, but not another if it offends a different group.
For consistencies sake, he should have said, 'freedom to print what you want extends to all circumstances, we will choose not to look at or support those cartoons from this contest...and we would suggest the Muslims ignore the ones from Europe.'
Seth
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