Just Like The Nazi's, Pol Pot & Soviet's Gulags

[Shark Black]

Dick Durbin Can Suck Military Balls lol

Reletively benign...

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050701/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/guantanamo_prisoners_vs_guards

[SethFWF]

What cracks me up is that people, especially the ultra-liberals think that this can be avoided in that kind of environment... It's going to happen when you put a bunch of men in that situation, and they have no love for each other...so what do we expect? I do think that some restraint should be shown, they shouldn't be tortured...etc... But these guys have to defend themselves and let these idiots know that they're not going to accept that behavior.

I do agree that these are the same people that would plotting to blow us up, whether home or abroad...and they should be imprisoned. Maybe a human rights liason or team should be stationed there to make sure of what exactly is going on and control all of the rumors and exaggerations.

Seth

[Sir Van Talvin]

Food for thought: what mid-20th-century prisoner in their right mind would "challenge" a Nazi or Soviet guard? Could you imagine what the possible consequences would be? Oh, wait, that's right.....nothing worse than a few punches or Pine-Sol to the face.

[SethFWF]

Hell, they should be happy they're not in prison in their own country...torture is a way of life there. Whether I ultimately agree with the war(at least in Iraq) or not, we have to contain these people now that we have them and do it by whatever means works. When you're dealing with animals, you have to become one sometimes...I do still wish we would have let them deal with themselves though.

Seth

[Virtual Scott]

Yikes. I'll stick with Dick Cheney's keen observation skills that the prisons are like a Caribbean vacation with great food worthy of a cruise ship and shuffleboard for all, galore. I wil lsay this, th ough, I can't imagine that all of the prisoners are "rogue animals" at all. What percentage are innocent civilians? Fairly large, I would imagine. Setting an example and full discloser in this case is worth it's weight in PR versus this campaign of corruption and deceit, but considering the premise this war was precipitated on, things are only going to get worse while we sky down the mountain into the quaqmire.

I think it's quite obvious the administration just is for one, caught in a web of confusion,incompetence and mismanagement, not to mention all the other negative aspects anyone else feels like adding into the mix. Really, though, here's a case where a good few Union mediators or CHristian Coalition missionaries would come in handy... :-)

[Shark Black]

Hehe Scott there are 500 something detainees at Guantanamo and you say that a large percent are civilians... How the heck do you know. Why would we detain civilians. (well basically most terrorists are just civilians anyways, but enough with the symantics) I would think that a number as little as 500 has been culled down to the same fuckers that blew up London today.

Let them burn!

Oh but you'd rather pacify those bastards and blame America first.

You cwazy rascal... It's a sport isn't it? hehe

Plus From what i know most of those SOBs in Gitmo are Al Quaeda from Afghanistan.

I hate to inform ya but this problem with these crazy sumbitches has been happening for 4 plus decades. Way before Bush was in office.

But How the hell are you Homey! You should come around more often!

[Virtual Scott]

No I"m not saying a large percentage are cilivians, per se (of course, one military man's "enemy combatant" is another man's "civilian", right?), but it's unquestionable there are plenty of vcivilians there. Regardless, the varying degree's of severity in the many different controversies surrounding the whole "Gitmo" situation leads me to believe there's more than meets the eyes here. I don't believe Rumsfeld most of the time... he's got too much to hide and has an obvious hidden agenda. And Cheney, well... the less said about his self-delusion and public display of it the better. Now, I'm not blaming "America" c'mon dude, that's a right wing tactic akin to accusing me of being a non-american or un patriotic, but a suspicious horse is a suspicious horse. Ther apparently needs to be some level of transparency and oversight here.

But anyhow, Homes, things is goin... I don't get here that often (dial up modem + new format + working on new CD + raising a child and girlfriend, heh heh = not as much time as usual). How the hell are yoa? Regardless of our differing political and ideological views, I can always count on you for a level headed, interesting and WRONG discussion... :-P

[Shark Black]

Things are good here. Weather is great, 70s most every day, minimal humidity. Going to a Giants game on Sunday with some friends. Continually working on my incredibly overpriced townhome. The value has increased 100,000 in one year. Cha Ching. I like this home ownership stuff. lol Sounds like your shit is groovin' right along. Can't wait to get a copy of your next CD. Keep us posted. And gets some Broadband Damnit! I haven't been creating any music lately. I need to get back into it.

Sooooo, when I'm able to add 2 + 2 and get 10, I'll let you know. Then I can make the same unconcious leaps from the political facts that you do.. Haha!!

Take care bud!

Brett