Shark Black
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Post by Shark Black on Jun 5, 2006 21:08:23 GMT -5
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kerrick
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Post by kerrick on Jun 6, 2006 6:01:15 GMT -5
Yeah, but those people's rights were infringed upon. Forget about the thousands of lives saved, what about those people's rights? [note the sarcasm]
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Virtual Scott
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Post by Virtual Scott on Jun 26, 2006 8:03:18 GMT -5
Yeah ok sure, did they VIOLATE the Canadian constitution? There's really almost no excuse (well, in this country at least) for breaking the law for the "good of the public." Afterall, with that excuse, where does one draw the line? Perhaps we should just shred the letter of the law and the Constitution BEFORE THE FACT just because, well, the Executive branch says it's in our best interest to do so. Being that as it may, the dwindling trust this adminsitration has breached time and time again, leads me to believe if anything, the burdenof proof better be DAMN STRONG before they take it upon themselves to treat themselves as above the law. There is a fine line... somewhere... in the shifting sands.
Sorry to say but to say the Bush adminstration is in possession of diminishing amounts of credibility and believability is an understatement.
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Shark Black
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Post by Shark Black on Jun 26, 2006 21:51:25 GMT -5
Yeah ok sure, did they VIOLATE the Canadian constitution? There's really almost no excuse (well, in this country at least) for breaking the law for the "good of the public." Afterall, with that excuse, where does one draw the line? Perhaps we should just shred the letter of the law and the Constitution BEFORE THE FACT just because, well, the Executive branch says it's in our best interest to do so. Being that as it may, the dwindling trust this adminsitration has breached time and time again, leads me to believe if anything, the burdenof proof better be DAMN STRONG before they take it upon themselves to treat themselves as above the law. There is a fine line... somewhere... in the shifting sands. Sorry to say but to say the Bush adminstration is in possession of diminishing amounts of credibility and believability is an understatement. PS nobody has broken any laws here. More propaganda. Most presidents in the 20th century have used the same principles and done the same thing, especially during time of war. Crax me up, the same people who were mad because Bushy didn't do enough to protect them against 9-11 are now crying because he doing what it takes.... Same ol' song and dance...  |
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kerrick
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Post by kerrick on Jun 27, 2006 0:48:17 GMT -5
dangit Shark Black, you're so wise.
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Virtual Scott
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Post by Virtual Scott on Jun 27, 2006 10:15:48 GMT -5
The Bush administration constantly is attempting (and often, succeeding) to push the scope of executive powers, as a matter of fact, if I am not mistaken, Republican Senator Arlen Spector is currently forming a committee to analyze, research and possibly present a case in the courts AGAINST just this carte blanche, blank check power mongerng by the Bush administration. It seems, the neo-cons and the Bush cabinet feel they can violate the constitution AND laws enacted by Congress for the sake of whatever the mood of the day, or their road map to conquest will lead them.
I don't really think the 'same old song and dance' is pertinent here. There's plenty of academic political analysts, professors, and bi-partisan politicos who are in agreement that what the Bush team is doing is basically unprecedented in attacking the laws and policies and mandates that stand in their way of the expansion of Executive Branch power grab.
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