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Post by Shark Black on Feb 14, 2005 21:29:54 GMT -5
Eason Jordan, A CNN executive resigns after being caught for making shit up. He said that Journalists in Iraq were being targeted by American Soldiers. He made these comments in Switzerland. Then he tried to back track after he was caught, saying that he meant that journalists were accidentally killed when bombs fell. Sorry but that is the most pitiful attempt at a cover up. hehe The trend continues. Don't drink it folks.
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BenMech
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Post by BenMech on Feb 14, 2005 21:42:29 GMT -5
how does that make him "Liberal", and why are you saying that being liberal is equal to being a liar?
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Post by ProgRocker on Feb 14, 2005 22:11:19 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not like a prominent republican has ever blamed gays for 9/11 or anything stupid like that.
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Post by Shark Black on Feb 15, 2005 10:56:36 GMT -5
Give me the quote on that Progrocker, I'm sure it doesn't exist. Just more make believe. But then again, I have no doubt some yokel could have said that, but he wasn't an executive of CNN in a room of foreign journalists. If he's in a foriegn country falsely acusing Americans of targeting innocent journalists he's a liberal.
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Post by ProgRocker on Feb 15, 2005 11:25:15 GMT -5
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Post by Fox on Feb 15, 2005 11:35:03 GMT -5
how does that make him "Liberal", and why are you saying that being liberal is equal to being a liar? That's how liberals equate themselves. remember the rallying cry: "When Clinton Lied No one died" (except for Vince Foster I guess) they admit Clinton lied, and they don't care. Bush was wrong, but they try to equate that to lying...and its bad all of the sudden (wtf?) Futhermore, I see more conspiracy theory nonsense day by day, like the crap about the bug in Bush's ear, and they still make baseless accusisations about voter fraud. yadda yadda yadda. Liberals lie and cheat, and therefore they assume others do. Liberals assume no one can get ahead in life without lying and cheating, unless being bestowed government handouts. The list goes on... In my years on this earth I've learned that people judge others most often based on how they themselves behave. So henceforth when people make wild baseless claims it speaks volumes about them and very little about the person the claims go against.
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Post by Gonzalo el Silenciado on Feb 15, 2005 15:09:35 GMT -5
Geez, Brett, the conservative memory is pretty fucking selective, isn't it? The Falwell/Robertson thing got LOTS of press. Guess you didn't see it on Fox. Now, repeat after me: "Not Conservative does NOT necesarilly mean evil." Remember the rallying cry: "When Clinton Lied No one died" (except for Vince Foster I guess) they admit Clinton lied, and they don't care. Nope. We simply have the decency to admit he fucked up. I wish half the righties out there had the same decency. Clinton's fuckup, by the way, was inconsequencial, apart from lots of federal spending on behalf of the Republican prosectors. He got aquitted, ferchrissakes. baseless accusisations about voter fraud. yadda yadda yadda. Diebold's cheifs are BIG contributors to the Republican party, and the lack of a paper trail was just bullshit. If the tables were turned, you'd be throwing the same fit. Don't pretend you wouldn't Liberals lie and cheat, and therefore they assume others do. Everbody lies and cheats. Isn't that one of the basic tennets of Christianity, that everbody is a goddamn sinner? Doesn't Christianity say you have to admit you've fucked up and then try to better yourself? The goons who call you 'constituent' aren't doing that. (Doesn't seem you are either). Must a godless heathen like myself point that out to a supporter of such a pro-Christianity party? If you want to talk about lying and cheating, let's bring up corporate tax loopholing and book-cooking. The heads of Worldcom and Enron were not frickin Democrats, I can assure you. And LOTS of people got screwed when those companies collapsed.
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Post by SethFWF on Feb 15, 2005 18:05:20 GMT -5
Liberals lie and cheat, and therefore they assume others do. Liberals assume no one can get ahead in life without lying and cheating, unless being bestowed government handouts. The list goes on... All(well 98%) politicians lie, period. Saying that "liberals lie and cheat" is like saying that men lie and cheat without bringing up the fact that women do also. Repubs are just as guilty of any crime, lie, or corruption as the Dems. This is why I feel that anyone who tows the party line for either side is either blind to the fact that their side is no more "right" than the other, or they're benefiting financially or in some other way. Seth
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Post by Shark Black on Feb 15, 2005 21:55:17 GMT -5
Falwell? hehe, That loser? The main point here is this.... "He is not in charge of disseminating the news." He is just a fricken boob! And that wasn't a lie, it was an opinion. He said they helped make it happen. It was a stupid opinion if he thinks that it was Gods Wrath... But Falwell is an idiot. And his opinion should be taken as that. He is not in charge of disseminating the news... It's not his job. His job is to be a BOOB!
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Post by Fox on Feb 16, 2005 9:27:43 GMT -5
Wow, you guys proved my point even more.
Nobody is perfect, and we all screw up from time to time. But its not my (or many others) goal to swindle others out of everything.
Do I believe Bush has been wrong? yes. Do I believe Bush makes mistakes, and will continue to? yes.
Do I believe Bush intentionally lied and decieved everyone for his own gain? NO!
There's a huge difference between those.
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Post by ProgRocker on Feb 16, 2005 9:43:58 GMT -5
Fox,
so you think it's better to be stupid than a liar? Hmmm, tough call.
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Post by Residue on Feb 16, 2005 9:53:40 GMT -5
Everbody lies and cheats. Isn't that one of the basic tennets of Christianity, that everbody is a goddamn sinner? Doesn't Christianity say you have to admit you've fucked up and then try to better yourself? The goons who call you 'constituent' aren't doing that. (Doesn't seem you are either). Must a godless heathen like myself point that out to a supporter of such a pro-Christianity party?
What a joke. You folks are talking about liberal/conservative journalist issues and this guy has the nerve to [glow=red,2,300]throw somebody's religion in their face[/glow] in order to prove a point? Do you have any idea how disgusting that is?
Have a little perspective, for heaven's sake. Argue all you want, but it doesn't take much additional effort to afford each other a little common decency.
What a jerk.
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Post by BenMech on Feb 16, 2005 18:38:06 GMT -5
Ok, before you decide to start namecalling: Learn some basic Netiquette!!!!! Gonzo has earned his place to say what he feels. Introduce yourself first, or shut up. Everybody lies and cheats. Isn't that one of the basic tennets of Christianity, that everbody is a goddamn sinner? Doesn't Christianity say you have to admit you've fucked up and then try to better yourself? The goons who call you 'constituent' aren't doing that. (Doesn't seem you are either). Must a godless heathen like myself point that out to a supporter of such a pro-Christianity party? What a joke. You folks are talking about liberal/conservative journalist issues and this guy has the nerve to [glow=red,2,300]throw somebody's religion in their face[/glow] in order to prove a point? Do you have any idea how disgusting that is?
Have a little perspective, for heaven's sake. Argue all you want, but it doesn't take much additional effort to afford each other a little common decency.
What a jerk.
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Post by Fox on Feb 17, 2005 9:35:12 GMT -5
Fox, so you think it's better to be stupid than a liar? Hmmm, tough call. I'll take ignorance over malice any day of the week. Benmech: we're all given the right to say whats on our minds.
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Post by Shark Black on Feb 17, 2005 11:24:23 GMT -5
That's how liberals equate themselves. remember the rallying cry: "When Clinton Lied No one died" (except for Vince Foster I guess) they admit Clinton lied, and they don't care. Bush was wrong, but they try to equate that to lying...and its bad all of the sudden (wtf?) Futhermore, I see more conspiracy theory nonsense day by day, like the crap about the bug in Bush's ear, and they still make baseless accusisations about voter fraud. yadda yadda yadda. Liberals lie and cheat, and therefore they assume others do. Liberals assume no one can get ahead in life without lying and cheating, unless being bestowed government handouts. The list goes on... In my years on this earth I've learned that people judge others most often based on how they themselves behave. So henceforth when people make wild baseless claims it speaks volumes about them and very little about the person the claims go against. Great Post Fox. The double standard is incredible. I am not that conservative, I was even a democrat for a short while. But They have become so petty and whiney and likely to see a conspiracy in every cupboard. They contradict themselves all the time for political expediency. Like their claim now that there is no problem with Social Security, when just 5 years ago they were leading the charge to reform Social Security, leading me to believe that their only intentions are to be anti Bush. It's almost a third grade mentality. Another example is the war in Iraq. When Clinton was invading Serbia & Bosnia without UN backing, to depose Milosevic who's country definitely was no threat to America, but was involved in attrocities, it was OK. The Democrats were all for it! Yeah Go Bill! Now forward to Iraq. Almost the same situation except the justification to go in was many times more evident. Hussein slaughtered hundreds of thousands if not millions of innocent victims, pretended to still had the WMD that he had at one time had and used. He sponsored terrorists in Israel, he invaded Kuwait, etc etc etc. And now it's immoral.... Double Standard BS! Like I say many liberal point of views I espouse whole heartedly, their are many area's of Bush's presidency that I disagree with. But I can't get behind the obvious double standard and the destructive behaviour that many Democrats seem so bent on acting out. And now there have been several examples of liberal journalists lying to make this president and this country look bad. How can that be condoned. At least I can tell you that Farwell and Robertson are scary idiots and should be put in straight jackets. Good Day eh!
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